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Under God
Saying “Under God” in the Pledge of Allegiance?
Are you for it or against it? And why?
The original Pledge was as follows,
“'I pledge allegiance to my Flag and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.”
It was written by Francis Bellamy in 1892. The words “under God” were added to the Pledge in 1954. Since then, there has been some controversy with saying those words especially in public schools.
Should we change the Pledge to avoid any further conflicts or leave it how it is?
It should go back to the original. Under God establishes that a religion that acknowledges a god is better than one that does not. Establishment is prohibited by the first amendment.
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One Nation Under God - Jon McNaughton
Why do some conservatives have a problem with deleting "one nation under God" from the pledge?
It wasn't added to the pledge until 1954, so for one thing, your problem is not with modern-day liberals, but with the original author of the pledge who obviously didn't think enough of God to add him to it in the first place. Besides, what exactly would be the problem with getting it back to its original form?
This Conservative doesn't really care one way or the other, but why are so many on the Left so eager to delete it? It doesn't say "One nation under the Christian God" does it?
Virtually every monotheistic religion believes in God, so why are so many people screaming that the Pledge is recommending Christianity over all other religions?
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